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In order to keep the list focused, some metrics have to be established so that every Python-related project isn't in the list. For example, a minimum of three thousand (3K) downloads per month, a few hundred subscribers to the project mailing list, or an obviously large established user base (e.g. Mailman). In addition, the list doesn't include modules or packages in the standard libraries such as Tkinter.

Download figures will vary for a project as new releases are made. Perhaps the download figures below should be an average of the last full three or four previous months? You can see detailed monthly downloads by following the links below for projects hosted on SourceForge.
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 * https://python.domainunion.de/cgi-bin/moinmoin/AppsWithPythonScripting  * AppsWithPythonScripting
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BitTorrent
 * downloads: 1.3-1.5 million/month (most downloads are just end-users)
 * related Python projects: ABC, G3, burst!		 [https://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ BitTorrent]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=33044 1.3-1.5 million/month] (most downloads are just end-users)
 * related Python projects: ABC, BT++, G3, burst!
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SpamBayes
  * downloads: 25K/month (most downloads are just end-users, aka Outlook plugin)		   * [https://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/ ABC] (Yet Another Bittorrent Client)
   * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=88285 300K/month]
   * related Python projects: BitTorrent, wxPython
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Mailman
 * downloads: 2-3K/month		   * [https://btplusplus.sourceforge.net/ BT++]
   * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=72355 125K/month]
   * related Python projects: BitTorrent, wxPython

  * [https://g3torrent.sourceforge.net/ G3 Torrent]
   * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=100549 10K/month]
   * related Python projects: BitTorrent, wxPython

[https://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ SpamBayes]
  * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?group_id=61702&ugn=spambayes&type=&mode=year 30-50K/month] (most downloads are just end-users, aka Outlook plugin)

[https://mailman.sourceforge.net/ Mailman]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?group_id=103&ugn=mailman&type=&mode=year 2-3K/month]
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pywin32 (formerly win32all)
 * downloads: 20K/month		 [https://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/win32/ pywin32] (formerly Win32All)
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?group_id=78018&ugn=pywin32&type=&mode=year 20-30K/month]
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wxPython
 * downloads: 20K/month		 WxPython
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=10718 20K/month]
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 * related Python projects: Boa-constructor, wxGlade, SPE, PythonCard  * related Python projects: BoaConstructor, WxGlade, [https://wiki.python.domainunion.de/moin/SPE SPE], PythonCard
 * book coming out soon
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BitPim
 * URL: https://bitpim.sourceforge.net/
 * downloads: 13-15K/month		   * BoaConstructor
   * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=1909 3K/month]
   * related Python projects: wxPython
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Plone
 * downloads: 10-14K/month		   * [https://wiki.python.domainunion.de/moin/SPE SPE]
   * downloads: [https://pythonide.stani.be]
   * related Python projects: wxPython

[https://bitpim.sourceforge.net/ BitPim]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=75211 13-15K/month]

[https://www.plone.org Plone]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=47214 10-14K/month]
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Zope ["Zope"]
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Python Imaging Library (PIL
 * downloads 9-15K/month (guesstimate)		 PythonImagingLibrary ([https://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ PIL])
 * downloads 9-15K/month (guesstimate) 
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PyGTK PyGtk
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NumPy/numarray
 * downloads: 6K/month		 [https://www.scons.org/ SCons]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?group_id=30337&ugn=scons&type=&mode=year 8K/month]
 * mailing list subscribers: 350+ for scons-users, 140+ for scons-dev

MoinMoin Wiki Engine
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=8482 6K/month]
 * used by many other projects for collaboration and documentation (even right ''here'' ;) )

[https://www.numpy.org/ NumPy] / NumArray
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=1369 6K/month]
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 * mailing list subscribers: 270+
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MySQL for Python
 * downloads 4-5K/month		 ["MySQL"] for Python
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=22307 4-5K/month]
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py2exe
 * URL: https://py2exe.sourceforge.net/
 * downloads: 3-4K/month

["Py2Exe"]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=15583 3-4K/month]
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Twisted
 * need stats		 TwistedMatrix ([https://www.twistedmatrix.com Twisted])
 * downloads: 3-4K/month
 * mailing list subscribers: 570+ for twisted-python, 150+ for twisted-web
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Jython
 * downloads: 3K/month		 ["Jython"]
 * downloads: [https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=12867 3K/month]
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ReportLab
 * URL: https://www.reportlab.com/		 [https://www.reportlab.com/ ReportLab]
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[https://www.cps-project.org/ Nuxeo CPS]
 * downloads: 2-3K/month
 * mailing lists subscribers: 400+
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== Missing from original email == == Python downloads for comparison ==
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{{{ These are the download figures for the latest release version of Python from python.org from the previous month. These figures do not include earlier versions of Python or downloads from mirror sites or other distributions.
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BitPim
    URL: https://bitpim.sourceforge.net/
    downloads: 13-15K/month

py2exe
    URL: https://py2exe.sourceforge.net/
    downloads: 3-4K/month
    Combined with Inno Setup users can package and distribute Python applications as standalones on Windows.

ReportLab
    URL: https://www.reportlab.com/
    downloads: 2K/month
    mailing list subscribers: 500+

}}}

== Original Message to marketing-python mailing list ==

Below is the original email. It is just a placeholder while the real formatted content for this page gets created above. I'm design challenged. `<wink>` I haven't figured out what kind of formatting I want to use yet. If you want to go ahead and start adding or revising content on this page, go ahead, just leave the email below alone and remember that other people might be checking out the page as well, so copy your text before submission in case there is a conflict from someone else making an update. -- KevinAltis

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This is my current summary list of the most popular Python projects, ranked roughly by the number of downloads per month, either actual or guesstimate based on mailing list subscribers. I'll probably move this info to a wiki page and update it periodically as new information becomes available. Based on Mike Fletcher's suggestions, if we were to focus our marketing efforts on promoting individual projects or promoting the use of Python for a particular application domain then the cutoff would be projects below PIL or possibly the less popular GUI toolkits (based on mailing list subscribers): PyGTK and PyQT.

Clearly, Python is a much more popular solution for building desktop GUIs and as an add-on scripting language than I suspected before starting this list. At the same time, anytime there is a discussion about building GUIs with Python, someone always mentions that the current crop of Python IDEs and layout tools are disappointing compared to MS Visual Studio and Borland's Delphi, so that's still an opportunity to be filled. Note that Tkinter is not represented below because it is bundled with Python.

On the web side of things Zope/Plone are the only standouts, though Twisted might fit in as well once we have better stats for it, certainly Twisted has a large and active developer base. There are many other web libraries and frameworks as shown by this wiki page

https://python.domainunion.de/cgi-bin/moinmoin/WebProgramming

but while there are many choices, most lack critical mass.

Suggestions and corrections welcome,

ka

---

{{{

BitTorrent
 downloads: 1.3-1.5 million/month (most downloads are just end-users)
 related Python projects: ABC, G3, burst!

SpamBayes
 downloads: 25K/month (most downloads are just end-users, aka Outlook plugin)

Mailman
 downloads: 2-3K/month
 large installed base, including SourceForge mailing lists

pywin32 (formerly win32all)
 downloads: 20K/month

wxPython
 downloads: 20K/month
 mailing list subscribers: 900+
 related Python projects: Boa-constructor, wxGlade, SPE, PythonCard

Plone
 downloads: 10-14K/month
 related Python projects: Zope, Archetypes, Collective
 book coming out this summer

Zope
 related Python projects: Plone
 10 books

Python Imaging Library (PIL
 downloads 9-15K/month (guesstimate)

PyGTK
 mailing list subscribers: 550+

PyQt
 mailing list subscribers: 500+

NumPy/numarray
 downloads: 6K/month

PyGame
 downloads: 5K/month
 2 books

MySQL for Python
 downloads 4-5K/month

Twisted
 need stats

Jython
 downloads: 3K/month
 2 books

}}}

Additional notes:
 * Mac OS X includes Python - Jaguar used Python 2.2.0, Panther uses Python 2.3.0
 * RedHat and Debian Linux distributions include Python and RedHat uses Python extensively and some Python projects are also included with the distributions.
 * Due to bundling and the use of mirror sites we can't collect meaningful download totals for Linux users for many projects. In those cases, maybe it is better to use the size of the mailing list as a popularity gauge?
 * https://python.domainunion.de/cgi-bin/moinmoin/AppsWithPythonScripting		  * Python-2.3.3.exe: 60K in March 2004
 * Python-2.3.3.tgz and Python-2.3.3.tar.bz2: 29K in March 2004
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CategoryHomepage Original message was posted to [https://pythonology.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-python marketing-python] mailing list

Introduction

The list is ordered with a preference to number of downloads per month, followed by the number of subscribers to the project mailing list.

The list is under construction. Suggestion on formatting, help finding more projects and keeping data up-to-date is welcome.

In order to keep the list focused, some metrics have to be established so that every Python-related project isn't in the list. For example, a minimum of three thousand (3K) downloads per month, a few hundred subscribers to the project mailing list, or an obviously large established user base (e.g. Mailman). In addition, the list doesn't include modules or packages in the standard libraries such as Tkinter.

Download figures will vary for a project as new releases are made. Perhaps the download figures below should be an average of the last full three or four previous months? You can see detailed monthly downloads by following the links below for projects hosted on SourceForge.

The download figures were last updated in March 2004. -- KevinAltis

Additional notes

  • Mac OS X includes Python - Jaguar used Python 2.2.0, Panther uses Python 2.3.0

  • RedHat and Debian Linux distributions include Python and RedHat uses Python extensively and some Python projects are also included with the distributions.

  • Due to bundling and the use of mirror sites we can't collect meaningful download totals for Linux users for many projects. In those cases, maybe it is better to use the size of the mailing list as a popularity gauge?

  • AppsWithPythonScripting

Most Popular Python Projects

[https://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ BitTorrent]

[https://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ SpamBayes]

[https://mailman.sourceforge.net/ Mailman]

[https://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/win32/ pywin32] (formerly Win32All)

WxPython

[https://bitpim.sourceforge.net/ BitPim]

[https://www.plone.org Plone]

["Zope"]

  • related Python projects: Plone
  • 10 books

PythonImagingLibrary ([https://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ PIL])

  • downloads 9-15K/month (guesstimate)

PyGtk

  • mailing list subscribers: 550+

PyQt

  • mailing list subscribers: 500+

[https://www.scons.org/ SCons]

MoinMoin Wiki Engine

[https://www.numpy.org/ NumPy] / NumArray

PyGame

  • downloads: 5K/month
  • mailing list subscribers: 270+
  • 2 books

["MySQL"] for Python

["Py2Exe"]

TwistedMatrix ([https://www.twistedmatrix.com Twisted])

  • downloads: 3-4K/month
  • mailing list subscribers: 570+ for twisted-python, 150+ for twisted-web

["Jython"]

[https://www.reportlab.com/ ReportLab]

  • downloads: 2K/month
  • mailing list subscribers: 500+

[https://www.cps-project.org/ Nuxeo CPS]

  • downloads: 2-3K/month
  • mailing lists subscribers: 400+

Python downloads for comparison

These are the download figures for the latest release version of Python from python.org from the previous month. These figures do not include earlier versions of Python or downloads from mirror sites or other distributions.

  • Python-2.3.3.exe: 60K in March 2004
  • Python-2.3.3.tgz and Python-2.3.3.tar.bz2: 29K in March 2004

Original message was posted to [https://pythonology.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-python marketing-python] mailing list

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