• PackagingWG
• 2018-03-19-Warehouse

Warehouse core developers' meeting

Monday, 19 March, 2018

Present

• Dustin
• Sumana
• Laura
• Mark
• Nicole
• Ernest
• Donald

Reschedule Monday March 26 meeting?

No, don't reschedule. Nicole unavailable; Dustin can join

Working on/blocked/announcements

Reminder: last week of March & first week of April, lots of unavailability

* Sumana:

• writing LWN article, draft this Thursday
• helped volunteers, triaged bugs, improved docs, supported users, tested Warehouse

• non-MOSS: improved Twine & releasing 1.11.0 today (now done https://pypi.org/project/twine/1.11.0/ )

Dustin

• Last of the camo changes to show message for big images
• Added ability to add classifiers in the admin UI (and took care of some classifier requests)
• Load testing support

• Non-MOSS: Description-Content-Type / Markdown Support U0001f389U0001f389U0001f389

• Will be "out" all of next week (non-billing, but still can attend this meeting & will be doing some light volunteer work / responding to messages)

Mark:

• PEP 541 ready for vote (sending e-mail today [now sent]), Nick made a couple edits last week.
• Facebook Grant Working document (will send e-mail to packaging-wg on feedback today) [link] due March 31

Ernest:

• Kubernetes is live on AWS! Cabotage is live on Kubernetes! Warehouse Live on Cabotage!
• Monitoring/Metrics added as we go, have deployment notifications and major alerts in Slack now #pypa-feed - may add to IRC
• Screencast link to be shared after upload
• Focusing on monitoring, stability, and performance this week with a focus on XMLRPC in Warehouse - biggest remaining blocker for switching over PyPI
• Runbooks/Docs on kubernetes installation/cabotage
• Plan to continue testing traffic redirects tomorrow. XMLRPC traffic "replay" can happen in the background without impacting users.
• We can continue redirect testing now that pip 9.0.2 is shipped, we can exclude Artifactory, and pip 1.5.4 (Ubuntu 14.04) confirmed fixed. - redirect people if they get an error
• Recurse Center: April 2-6, I'll be MIA
• no blockers

Laura:

• Has been reviewing PRs
• testing 566 compliance

Nicole

• reviewing PRs
• PR - upgrade way to make dropdowns work better

• of UX issues, issues 2612, 3194, 3062, 1317 -- very much need to be done -- most other stuff is nice-to-haves

• 2 volunteers for user testing - would like to run another run of tests on package detail page but may need more funds?
• no blockers

Donald

• helping with load testing

• working on releasing pip 9.0.2 https://pypi.org/project/pip/9.0.2/ - may need 0.3

• Warehouse brownouts ?

Followup from past meetings

Mark, Ernest & Donald: When can we announce [redacted] credits?

• Ernest: still need logo for footer... no?
• Publicize before getting logo?
• DI - remove sponsors that are no longer sponsoring
• need [redacted] transparent logo from Donald
• Donald - no reason to wait
• Mark will take care of announcement/logo

Mark: grant proposals for future grants?

Sumana: talk with Eric about sponsorship outreach & future fundraising - cc Betsy

Nicole & Ernest: ask volunteer contributors for more code review? (Dustin scaling back on PR review)

• yeraydiazdiaz - good front end contributions
• Alan Bato - good front end
• Al Mazan
• DI - follow up

Nicole: how much Nicole time left on grant?

• discuss after

Mark: PEP 541? (addressing) Mark: Open Tech Fund?

• Formal determination message within the next 2 weeks.
• May take some time to iterate through their process and create a finished proposal with them

Beta & redirect schedule

* Should the China CAPTCHA issue be in our beta milestone? https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3174

• Ernest: looking like it's time to switch from reCAPTCHA to some other service...?
• DI - we may need external help or try to find another captcha service
• Donald - not part of beta but we should try to fix it
• Ernest - try to find a known good captcha instead of Google

• DI & EWDIII will take care of captcha

Who wants to review announcements Sumana writes this week?

• Nicole can review

Who's available & interested in being on podcasts in April?

• DI
• Ernest
• Sumana
• Nicole - user experience focused podcasts

Bug triage

* Set samesite=lax on session cookies #3221 https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3221

• Sumana asks: I think this is not urgent. Correct? Post-shutdown milestone?
• We should do this but it is blocked on Pyramid supporting it

  • is there an upstream bug already filed against Pyramid? is it https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/issues/2733 ?

  • Not urgent - defense in depth - nice to have but we can wait until Pyramid supports it

should Warehouse guard against people uploading broken-description wheels made with an old version of wheel? https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3084

• Sumana asks: want Twine to check for this? How urgent? Doesn't feel like MOSS work
• Not twine's job, not in scope of MOSS, not a priority, but a nice-to-have

#3275 Artifactory https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3275

• Sumana asks: do we have someone at JFrog we can/should reach out to?
• Actually is "Artifactory does not like externally hosted files"
• Will follow up with initial reporter to see if we can get JFrog involved.

Design question for Nicole on ISO dates https://github.com/pypa/warehouse/issues/3010

• Progress? This week

Ask Donald for:

nothing this week

TODO

* Ernest: DI, Mark, Donald logins for Cabotage/Tectonic